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ADENLE YUSUF ADETUNJI
ADENLE YUSUF ADETUNJI from Nigeria, 12 May 2012

Changing the Menace of Motorbikes (Okada) in urban Centers, or should Motor Bikes be banned?

I think the long term solution is the provision of fast, safe and convenient alternative mode of transport system i.e., water in Lagos.The short term approaches include the training and integrating of this operators as a backbone of a decent transportation system, a system that makes okada riding unattractive and at the same time provides jobs.

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Cornie Huizenga
Cornie Huizenga (Moderator), 12 May 2012

For those of you who are not familiar with the Okada system in Lagos you can take a look at http://pmnewsnigeria.com/2011/12/02/curbing-the-okada-menace-in-lagos/. It is interesting though - I am in bangkok at the moment and the concept is very wide spread here as in some other Asian countries http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorcycle_taxi. It seems that Thailand has been able to regulate this form of public transport. So, what are your views? Is there a future for motor cycle taxi's or are they best banned.

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ADENLE YUSUF ADETUNJI
ADENLE YUSUF ADETUNJI from Nigeria, 22 May 2012

Cornie Huizenga. Thank you very much for your contribution. My view is that, urban transportation system should be design and planned in such a way that will discourage the use of motor cycle.

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Cornie Huizenga
Cornie Huizenga (Moderator), 22 May 2012

Hi Adenle - I have changed the title of your original posting by adding the question whether motor bikes should be banned. Let's see what the others have to say on this.

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Priscella B. Mejillano
Priscella B. Mejillano, 22 May 2012

Hi Adenle. Same here in Manila, Philippines. The increase in number of motorbikes is proportionate with the increase in gasoline rates. Motorbikes are figured in road accidents and even snatching, robbery (riding in tandem). Now, the Metro Manila Devt Authority imposed stiffer policies- motorbike lane in the EDSA (Metro Manila's main highway), mandatory helmets, spot checking of riders in tandem, etc. We don't have options, though, in place of motorbikes since we have existing public transport systems- buses, LRT, MRT, jeepneys, taxis, etc.

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Carlosfelipe Pardo
Carlosfelipe Pardo (Moderator) from Colombia, 22 May 2012

The issue of motorbikes has become a crucial topic more recently, especially in Latin American cities where "the menace of motorbike taxis" has started fairly recently (in the last ten years). Asia has tried a lot of solutions but probably one thing that they have learned is that handling motorbikes may be similar to handling other dangerous items: legalizing them may be a good way to start regulating them. I am not sure if banning them would be a solution (but I would support banning two-stroke motorcycles anyway!).

In any case, the video of this link seems to show what happens when there is no proper regulation, enforcement or altogether control of this mode of transport:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CU1PR4d1wM

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udeze uchay
udeze uchay, 24 May 2012

for safety and security reasons, believe motorbikes or 'okada' as it is called in lagos,Nigeria where i reside should be banned though i dont know how possible that would be.
the question is, what will happen to the thousands of 'okada' owners who use this as their means of livelyhood?
the govt should but in place regularization and a well laid structure for the okada riders...so as to curb their lawlessness!!

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Carlosfelipe Pardo
Carlosfelipe Pardo (Moderator) from Colombia, 24 May 2012

One option would be to modify the service in two ways:
- Change the vehicles (probably a similar service could be provided by medium-speed electric-assisted vehicles - biketaxis)?
- Develop a formal regulation for their operation by defining zones of operation, basic rules and frequencies, etc.

Does this sound good?

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Pradip Nandi
Pradip Nandi, 26 May 2012

yes, this sounds good. But one has to consider its limitations. How much distance a E-bike could cover after charging. An E-buke taxi may need to charge its batteries several times a day, requiring battery charging points at strategic locations. Moreover, this is possibly a short term solution. Growing cities ultimately may require electicity based rapid urban transit systems to deal with pollution problems as well.

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Cornie Huizenga
Cornie Huizenga (Moderator), 27 May 2012

Hi Pradip - see attached picture of the e-taxis in Xian, China where these are operating on a large scale already (close to 10,000) I believe. You can find different forms of these in different Chinese cities. The advantage of e-bikes is that the battery is not large and you can take it out easily and carry it to the charging point, rather than bring the charging to the vehicle. China now has about 100 million e-bikes and 99.9% of these are charged by carrying the battery up to the nth floor of the appartment building where people live and are charged in the kitchen, bathroom, living room or bed room :-)

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Pradip Nandi
Pradip Nandi, 27 May 2012

Cornie, Thanks a lot for the info.

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Jinadu Afeez
Jinadu Afeez, 25 May 2012

An average income earner and high income earner can easily say that motorcycle riders should be banned but putting the low income earner into consideration, I don't think motorcycles should be banned until adequate transport alternatives are provided at affordable prices.

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Cornie Huizenga
Cornie Huizenga (Moderator), 26 May 2012

Jinadu - good points! I think that it is important to remember that motor cycles take up far less road space than cars. Talking about banning motor cycles somehow implies that a car is a superior object and that all people should aspire to own a car. Any argument against motor cycles: polluting, dangerous, etc can also be made against cars, yet I have not seen any proposals to ban cars?

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sunday odudu
sunday odudu from Nigeria, 27 May 2012

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sunday odudu
sunday odudu from Nigeria, 27 May 2012

I Adenle- I agree with you on the issue of discouraging the use of motor cycles on major urban transport routes but i also solicit the need for implementable and realistic alternatives so as to avoid the menace of motor bike rallies on our urban streets like the case in Hanoi, Vietnam.

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Carlosfelipe Pardo
Carlosfelipe Pardo (Moderator) from Colombia, 29 May 2012

One instrument that is often used is to generate economic incentives or penalties for using one or another mode of transport. It could be that buying and using motorbikes would be very expensive, followed by buying/using cars, and bicycles would have no taxes (and ebikes lower taxes)... Would that help to balance the problem?

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