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Ed Werna
Ed Werna, 22 June 2012

Change of time: Event about the Urban Labour Network during the World Urban Forum 6, Monday, 3 September 2012, 17:00 - 19:00 hours

Dear All,

I already informed you about this Event during the World Urban Forum 6. Please note that there has been a change of time. The event will take place on Monday, 3 September 2012, 17:00 - 19:00 hours (NOT at 14:30 - 16:30 mentioned before). I hope to see everybody there!
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Dear All,

I informed you about the ULN (Urban Labour Network) on a previous message. I am pleased to inform now that we will have a meeting during the World Urban Forum 6, Monday, 3 September 2012, 14:30 - 16:30 (venue to be confirmed).

This will be an opportunity for all of those with an interest in urban labour to get together, define key issues for research and practice, build upon the efforts made so far, and with a view to the future / the way forward. Why and how people with a specific interest on urban labour should get together under a Urban Labour Network, what are the benefitis, and how we can advance this in the future.

Hope to see you all there!


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The Urban Labour Network is a global knowledge sharing network with a specific focus on the role of labour in urban development. It is designed to serve as a venue for bringing together practitioners, researchers, policy-makers and other interested actors (across the board, from developed to developing countries) to exchange ideas and information, post comments and articles, inform about relevant events such as seminars, conferences, and forums, and eventually promote further knowledge on the topic of urban labour.

For more info, check:

http://www.urban-labour.net/

If you want to become a member, click on "register" and follow the instructions.



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Bourdon de Pernier
Bourdon de Pernier, 29 June 2012

Noted. Thanks. Please inform the room number.

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Bourdon de Pernier
Bourdon de Pernier, 4 July 2012


With all due respect, I would like to express my dissatisfaction with this e-debate. I am not pointing fingers to anyone, but am just surprised with the lack of new ideas and creativity. Issues discussed, such as the need to create employment, or employment to young people in particular, the importance of the informal sector, the fact that infrastructure provision creates jobs, labour-intensive techniques etc., are as old as development theory itself, actually older.

What is new, really? What are the new approaches and paradigms in regard to urban labour? What are the state-of-the-art debates on this body of knowledge? What is the direction to which the whole thing is going? Who are the main thinkers and doers? None of these have cleared surfaced in the discussion, really.

To continue focussing that construction generate jobs? That should be labour-intensive? Please... (with due respect).

There seems to be a stagnation of ideas and practices.

My intention in this message is not to offend anyone. But I really had to say what I said.

I hope that a face-to-face meeting at the World Urban Forum, as suggested by this Urban Labour Network, would help us to move ahead.

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Steve Miller
Steve Miller (Moderator) from France, 11 July 2012

My apologies for not responding earlier. Yes, if there are really "new approaches and paradigms" out there, "state of the art" debates, let's hear them! Whereas the debate could have explored many new areas, and I understand your disappointment with respect to what we have learned about job creation and youth employment, I beg to differ with respect (and its perfectly ok to point fingers should you wish to do so with all due respect), but the "old issues" may well be the fundamental ones with respect to urban job creation. Namely, how do we systematically link employment objectives to infrastructure investment? How do we improve both the quantity and quality of jobs, including in the urban informal economy? These issues remain fundamental to my mind, but please do not hold back in sharing your knowledge on the new paradigms and state of the art approaches.

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Ed Werna
Ed Werna, 13 July 2012

Dear Bourdon: I feel that your comments (and Steve's answer) are more pertinent to the debate on "Infrastructure Investment and Job Creation". I have seen that you did replicate your comments in such debate, and got answers. Hope they are helpful.

Otherwise, I thank you for your hope that the Event on the Urban Labour Network at the World Urban Forum will take the debate forward, hopefully addressing your questions, that will taken into account.

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